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January 25, 2007

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E&G

Well, I've been an avid reader since Ruch Reichl took the helm and I've always liked it--before her they were offering recipes for food to eat while you are "darning socks by the fire" (!!the horror, the horror)--yes, 06 did seem to have a lot of "responsible eating" articles but I swear in every issue there was eye-widening photography and adventure and compelling narrative. But yes, I agree, I think the last couple of issues spectacular--I ate up the Italia-focussed issue--the writing was so good and about lesser known cities and areas (not just Tuscany or the Veneto or Lombardia or Lazio) and the photography made me want to jump on a plane.

I'm intrigued by the addition of Colman Andrews--didn't Reichl paint a verrrrry unflatting picture of him in her memoirs (Comfort me with Apples?) as her condescending, critical lover?--I was amazed at how frank she was in her dislike. I thought him rather creepy. And now....he's writing for Gourmet. That must have been an interesting rapprochement.

I'm glad you're enjoying and share your enthusiasm for Gourmet..as it is right now.

elle

I like Gourmet Magazine.

Karen

I vote for Gourmet.

erika

I live in Japan, so don't have access to any of these (I'm an in-print girl, so the website is only foreplay for me). My husband has been touting Cooks. Any opinions?

Robyn

Karen's obviously biased. ;-) (She also wrote a wonderful article on Vietnam for the Jan issue).

But I do like this transformation, if that's what it is. I've always just kind of flipped through Gourmet before, saving my time to read each and every article in Saveur. But I actually read most all of the Jan Gourmet. Saveur is struggling, unfortunately. I haven't noticed any changes, but if the general public is open to this kind of Gourmet, why aren't they loving Saveur as well? (I'm obviously biased, too!)

Catherine

E&G - I was just discussing Colman Andrews with a friend, and wondering how that writing gig came about. Apparently it started in December, and not everyone is happy about it.

Karen - Looking forward to reading your article! And good luck with the move...

Erika - Do you mean Cooks Illustrated? Or is that different from Cooks? I used to really like Cooks Illustrated, esp. the reader tips up front - there is some really clever stuff there. But ultimately, I read cooking magazines for inspiration, and CI's thing is all about scientifically proving they've got the best roast chicken recipe. The recipes just aren't very interesting to me, but if you're learning to cook, or you're testing recipes, it's probably a must-have.

Robyn - Ya know, I'm kind of with you. Haven't been loving old Saveur as much as I once did. I'm not sure why but it just isn't as fresh as it once was. I kind of feel like, if I have to read one more article about the author's [fill in the nationality] grandmother's recipe for [fill in the blank food item] I will scream! And yet, I'm happy to read that in Gourmet. ??? Maybe the writing is just better.

Christina

Enjoying this blog. I don't read Gourmet, but have been a Saveur subscriber for maybe two years. Lately I too have really been irritated with the "author's [fill in the nationality] grandmother's recipe for [fill in the blank food item]."

The change I've noticed is that Saveur now really seems to like highlighting some of the old American home "classics," but with very little updating or fiddling. And in their top 100 issue this year, canned peas and takeout Chinese were among the picks. That took me a little closer to cancelling my subscription.

Catherine

Christina - As with Gourmet, I am guilty of flipping through Saveur so I think today I'll do a sit-down, side by side reading of the Jan issues of both mags and see where I personally net out. Just so I know where I want to spend my precious little reading time in the future. But your observation about American classics strikes me as correct. See, I actually like that - I am obsessed with the American South, so even though it's been done, I still really enjoy reading about it. I would be up for discovering some areas of the country outside the South, Maine and Texas tex-mex however.

James Oseland

Hey, you guys, it's James, the editor of Saveur. I was just reading your intriguing posts. But hang on: Saveur isn't Gourmet, and Gourmet isn't Saveur! We just happen to be two American food magazines who've shared a lot of the same staff and writers and photographers over the years (though Gourmet has a higher circulation base than us, and, thus, generally speaking, it is less likely to experiment and push the envelope than we are--their stakes are higher). All I ask of you is to sit back and revel in BOTH of our efforts! It's not a competition! It's food, it's fun, enjoy! (And for every item that you disliked in the recent Saveur 100--the canned peas, the Chinese takeout, for example--surely there were others that caught your fancy. The Saveur 100 is ALWAYS like that. But that's what makes us Saveur.) Talk to you guys later.

SN

No matter what, food magazines are still my guiltiest pleasure, but I wondered if anyone noticed how Food & Wine has become very similar to Bon Appetitm, with lots of glossy lifestyle features. I still like aspects of both, but am leaning towards Food & Wine.

I think in order I like: Saveur for the articles, Food & Wine for the recipes and Gourmet for the photography and recipes.

Catherine

James - thanks for stopping by. I just read the Top 100 issue the last two nights and personally, I don't mind the canned peas -- I think it shows chutzpah, and it also takes Saveur out of the land of the overly precious. I mean, we all eat canned peas (or frozen ones) and Chinese takeout, let's be thankful for that. But I do feel like somehow the magazine has gotten a bit...I dunno, less exciting?...over the last few years. I'm going to keep reading though, b/c like Robyn, I have been a fan for ages, and I really enjoyed January -- esp. the piece on homemade bitters. True to your POV and also very current. If you have time, I'm sure I speak for everyone in wondering how (or if) you plan to tweak Saveur in the months to come. For instance, is Christina right in noting more of a focus on American traditions?

SN - I don't read Bon App, truth be told, but I agree that they share some similarities with F&W. I read F&W primarily for the restaurant news.

James Oseland

Well, I can't really comment on how "exciting" Saveur has or hasn't been over the last few years--I've only been in the driver's seat for the last three issues. But I think in those issues there has been some truly exciting stuff: Madhur Jaffrey's fantastic piece about tamarind; Irene Sax's respectful story about casseroles (yes, I do have a strong weakness for American food traditions); food editor Todd Coleman's fabulous reinventing of the Kitchen section in the back of the magazine.... As for what the future holds, just stay tuned!

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